Comments on: FAT .NET

By: .NET Installed on Almost 80% of Windows PCs

.NET Installed on Almost 80% of Windows PCs — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:04:48 +0000

[...] shortsightedness harms .NET developers because it often requires our customers to download the separate 25+ MB package from Microsoft to run our .NET application. This extra hassle puts .NET developers at a [...]

By: Yaser

Yaser — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:58:09 +0000

Hi all,
Check the new feature called as the .NET Framework Client Profile
for overcoming the size problem of .NET Framework.
links:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc656912.aspx
http://blogs.windowsclient.net/trickster92/archive/2008/05/21/introducing-the-net-framework-client-profile.aspx

By: Cogito

Cogito — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:00:19 +0000

I create application with the size of 24 KB with c#, but I have to include .net framework 2.0 with 22.4 MB. My client complain because he has to download 22.4 MB only to install 24 KB file size application.

Did I lie to my customers? Will microsoft always make everything tobe difficult?

By: David Nelson

David Nelson — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:12:00 +0000

I wonder if you have seen Scott Hanselman’s blog post on the true size of the download for the .NET framework: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/SmallestDotNetOnTheSizeOfTheNETFramework.aspx.

Basically, the download is NOT 200MB. At most, it is 56MB.

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:52:51 +0000

I package the 2.0 framework with my executable in a self-extracting zip file then run a batch file that check if the framework is installed, and if it is not, then the batch file starts the installer. I mostly write small and simple apps that when compiled take up ~20-50KB. The last program i wrote was a polyalphabetic encryption algorithm with a loop function and it is 56KB. I wrote a 6000 line app and that only takes 140KB, but the total memory usage is almost 50MB mostly because of the framework assemblies.

By: alwin

alwin — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:29:51 +0000

I have a project where i only use some .net 3.5 assemblies, for example System.Core. I just put copy local to true, and include them in the download. Works like a charm :)

By: .net framework 2.0

.net framework 2.0 — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:02:30 +0000

[...] just to run your application, that’s about all they need to turn to your competitors’ solutions.http://www.devtopics.com/fat-net/FileForum Microsoft .NET Framework v2.0 x86Oct 28, 2005 … It appears like 2.0 is solid and a good [...]

By: gregg

gregg — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:53 +0000

Bumped into your FAT-NET article. Right on! The problem today is most programmers are ‘hires’ and not ‘publishers-for-profit’. Microsoft makes its money on providing tools/services for corporate in-house projects where ‘good-enough’ software is, well, good enough. Microsoft .NET forces the “publishers-for-profit” to obfuscate, placate the MSI installer-god, police and intrude on the customer’s Windows installation. Despite any advantages .NET may bring to the table, it has failed to make Common Languages Runtime-equal. C# is the prima donna, J# is the ugly duckling while the dethroned VC++ is slowly forced into the system programming dungeon. Managed-code hysteria is leaving alot of developer-publisher roadkill!

By: net framework 1 1 download

net framework 1 1 download — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:06:30 +0000

[...] from Microsoft&quot just to run your application, that’s about all they need to turn to youhttp://www.devtopics.com/fat-net/Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 Released – ScottGu&39s BlogNET 3.5 Released. Monday, November 19, [...]

By: timm

timm — Sun, 11 May 2008 14:46:19 +0000

Jabba the Hutt says:

“Kaa bazza fatoo kundee hodrudda Jabba moota lande. Meba zundratta stupidoo gozeeo Microsofticon ganja dotnet inclusioo puta Windoze. Moda quitata Princessa Leia hottiee bikinee gooldona. Heh heh heh heh. Buta whata upa Cinnabono hairdooa?”

Which translates to:

“If you think I’m fat, you should see Jabba’s mother-in-law! It’s quite foolish for Microsoft not to include .NET with Windows. How about that Princess Leia in a golden bikini? Oooh la la. But whatup with those Cinnabon hair rolls?”